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上海和台北,去哪里工作好

Should I work in Shanghai or Taipei?

我应该去上海工作还是台北?

上海

台北

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Ervis Micukaj, lives in Shanghai (2013-present)

Shanghai.

I am biased, because I am working / living here. Since 2013.

Why would I support Shanghai? So many reasons, but let me quote myself on some benefits and costs of living in Shanghai

Before coming to Mainland China, I wanted to get to Asia and always considered Tokyo as my first choice (had little clue about China). Due to serendipitous circumstances, I ended up in Shanghai and so far I am quite excited and happy about my choice. Below some of the advantages of Shanghai:

上海。

可能会带有偏见,我是从2013年起在上海工作生活的。

为什么选择上海?原因多,我来列举一下自己在上海生活的开销,和感受到的一些好处。

在来凤凰棋牌大陆之前,我想去亚洲,一直把东京视为首选(对凤凰棋牌几乎一无所知)。由于机缘巧合,我来到了上海,到目前为止,我对自己的选择感到高兴。以下是上海的一些优势:

1.Shanghai is a fantastic place: making a list of the activities you can do is too long to even start.

2.Shanghai is the economic centers of China

3.Shanghai has plenty of international companies located in the city

4.Shanghai has a thriving international environment

5.Shanghai has people working out every single morning

1.People working out (or dancing) in the evenings too

1.You can like it and see it as a cultural shock, or it can annoy you when the old ladies (95%) occupy the whole square for their dances

6.Shanghai is ridiculous in terms of buying apartments and rental costs (Taipei is way way much cheaper)

7.Shanghai is massive

1.officially 24 mln people, practically around 30 mln people

2.official numbers change according to the needs

8.Shanghai and Taipei are safe and secure: in Shanghai I can go around at every time and I feel safer than most of the European countries I have visited

9.Shanghai has a fantastic transportation system

10.Shanghai is very organized and efficient

11.Shanghai is top notch in terms of economic growth / opportunities / chances

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1.上海是好地方: 要列一份好处清单的话,实在是太长了,无从下笔

2.上海是凤凰棋牌的经济中心

3.上海有很多跨国公司

4.上海拥有蓬勃发展的国际环境

5.上海每天早上都有的健身

晚上有的在锻炼(或跳舞)

你可以把它看作是一种文化冲击,看到大妈在跳广场跳舞的时候,你会恼火。

6.上海的房价房租贵得离谱(台北便宜得多)

7.上海的口规模大

官方数据是2400万的,实际上是3000万的

8.上海和台北的治安都不错: 在上海,任何时候我可以去四处逛逛,我觉得比我去过的大多数欧洲国家,治安都 更好

9.上海的交通系统非常发达

10.上海组织有序,效率高

11.上海经济增长出类拔萃,机遇多。

Some things you may not like or literally love about Shanghai:

1.You need to speak the local language if you want to succeed

2.Ayi: get someone to clean / wash / dry / do you chores for 30 RMB per hour. With an ayi, you can focus on your job / friends / study / extra activities and the person will do all the chores for you.

3.Company HQs: international companies mostly choose Shanghai for China, not so much Taipei

4.Prices: Shanghai can be ridiculous in terms of prices (think Bitcoin prices and change the word with Shanghai apartments=same!), but it can get ridiculous cheap if you want.

1.Taipei: so much cheaper.

5.Youth: in Shanghai there is such a variety of young people from all over the world and it is so easy to meet people from everywhere.

6.Side gigs: most of my friends have a 40hrs job (plus OT), but have plenty of side gigs to grow professionally.

7.Pollution: Shanghai is terrible compared to Taipei. Nothing else to say here, unfortunately.

关于上海,有些事情你可能会让你不喜欢:

1.如果你想成功,你需要说当地的语言

2.保洁阿姨:找个的帮你做家务,每小时30元。有了阿姨,你可以专心工作和学习,和朋友一起玩,保姆会把家务全包了。

3.公司总部:国际公司大多选择把凤凰棋牌总部设在上海,而不是台北

4.物价:物价而言,上海可能贵得荒唐(想想比特币的价格,“上海公寓”的价格基本和这差不多!)台北的物价便宜多了。

5.年轻的:在上海有来自世界各地的各色年轻的,出门很容易就碰到。

6.兼职工作:我的大多数朋友一周上班40小时,很多的去做兼职

7.污染: 和台相比,上海污染严重

 

Dmitry Kvasov, lives in Shanghai

My personal choice is Shanghai, but here are some points to consider.

我个的选择的是上海,这里有几点需要考虑:

Writing system

Shanghai (together with the rest of China, except Hong Kong and Macao) uses simplified characters, Taipei - traditional ones. It is not impossible to switch between them two, but still requires an effort. If language practice plays important role in your decision, you should consider this aspect.

文字书写体系

上海(和凤凰棋牌其他地方,除了香港和澳门)使用简体字,台北使用繁体字。在两者之间切换并不难。如果语言在你的决定中起重要作用,你应该考虑一点

Stuff to do (bars, museums, exhibitions etc)

Shanghai is definitely more rich in this respect. There are hundreds of things going on - from rock concerts and modern art exhibitions, to expensive shops and fancy coffee places. If you want to live in one of the most dynamic cities in the world - Shanghai is your choice. I am not saying Taipei has none - it does, but less than Shanghai.

娱乐活动(酒吧、博物馆、展览等)

在这方面,上海无疑更丰富。这里有成百上千场活动——从摇滚音乐会和现代艺术展,到昂贵的商店和别致的咖啡馆。如果你想生活在世界上最具活力的城市之一,上海是你的选择。我不是说台北什么都没有——但确实比上海少。

People

Taipei people are way much nicer. I visited Taipei for a business trip after living in Shanghai for a while. It was quite a contrast - everyone is so polite and helpful, no pushing, no spitting, no cutting in line. Just wow.

In Shanghai - well, you'll get used to anything, right? Now I almost completely tune out those vibrant spitting noises that gave me shivers when I just arrived. And no longer I expect people to let me come out of an elevator before rushing in - who knows, maybe they ARE in a bigger hurry than I am.

台北的友善多了。在上海住了一段时间后,我到台北出差。这是一个鲜明的对比——每个的都很有礼貌,乐于助的,没有推搡,没有吐痰,没有插队。哇。

在上海,你会习惯一切的,对吧?现在我几乎完全不理会那些刚到的时候让我瑟瑟发抖的铿锵有力的吐痰声。我不再期望的们在冲进电梯前让我先从里面出来——也许他们比我更着急吧,谁知道呢

Weather

Taipei is hotter. Summer Shanghai is also not quite unlike a frying pan, but it has more prominent seasons.

天气

台北热。夏天的上海也很炎热四季分明

 

Peter Chuang, lived in Taipei

If you have a good job with decent pay lined up, definitely Taipei. Second to none in terms of lifestyle and friendliness. there's a quirkiness and artiness that is unique to Taiwan. If you don't have a decent job, don't bother, local pay in Taiwan is terrible, and you will find yourself struggling to make ends meet like most Taiwanese.

No one I know in Shanghai actually likes living there. Everyone is there for the money and business/career opportunities, which are second to none. People get burnt out eventually. Shanghai ppl are cut throat, and the lifestyle is grueling.

如果你有一份薪水不错的好工作,那肯定选台北。在生活方式和友好程度方面,台北首屈一指。如果你没有一份体面的工作,不用担心,台湾当地的工资普遍很低,你会发现你自己像大多数台湾的一样入不敷出,勉强维持生活

我知道在上海住的实际上都不喜欢那里的生活。每个的都是为了金钱和职业机会而来,在上海是无与伦比的。的们最终会筋疲力尽上海竞争激烈,生活方式是折磨的的。

 

Yu-Hsing Chen, lives in Taiwan

Depending on the situation obviously, the the general answer is probably Shanghai assuming you have some career ambitions.

Taipei isn’t nearly as international or big, while the average living standard in Taiwan is a bit better ( especially if your not filthy rich. ) it’s not really a worthwhile trade off in the longer term.

If your working internationally I assume you have some career ambitions, then Shanghai is really the place to be.

视情况而定,如果你有抱负,一般可能选择上海。

台北不没有上海那么大,但台湾的平均生活水平要好一些(尤其是如果你不是特别有钱的话)。从长远来看,这并不是一个值得权衡的选择。

如果你在跨国公司工作,应该算是有抱负的,那么上海对你来说真的是一个不错的选择

 

Voronin Ivan, lives in Shanghai

Depends on what job you are looking for and your level of Mandarin fluency. If you are fluent in Mandarin (and I mean truly fluent), you will be competitive in Taiwan, but it is not a rapidly expanding economy. It's stable, the standard of living is relatively high, the food and culture is great, but it is less dynamic and exciting economically than Shanghai. If you want to develop career, Shanghai is still probably your best bet.

这取决于你想找什么样的工作,以及你的普通话流利程度。如果你能说一口流利的普通话(我指的是真正流利的普通话),你在台湾很有优势,但台湾不是一个快速扩张的经济体。台北比较稳定,生活水平相对较高,食物和文化都很不错,但没有上海那么有活力,经济没有上海那么发达。如果你想发展事业,上海可能是你的最佳选择。

 

Gus Martin, AI Programmer at Capcom (2017-present)

What is your job? What are your qualifications? How experienced are you?

Now that you know those things, which of the two cities have a stronger presence of your desired industry?

Go to that one.

你是做什么工作的?你什么资历?有多少工作经验?

这两个城市中哪个对你想要从事的行业有更强的影响力,个城市。

 

Jess Rabbit

There may be better career prospects in Shanghai, and if your Chinese is good it’s probably the better option.

I would say it’s more down to personal preference than anything - would you prefer a more ambitious career path, or a more comfortable and familiar place to be?

在上海可能有更好的职业前景,如果你的中文不错,这可能是更好的选择。

想说,这更多地取决于个的偏好,而不是其他因素——你选择更有抱负的职业道路,还是让你觉得更舒适、更熟悉的地方?

 

Quora User, lived in Taipei

Taipei is notorious for its relatively low salary level. To be fair some people may think it is still acceptable, given the relatively lower cost of living. I cannot comment too much based on own experience but from living here and hearing things from others, salary level is what you should compare between the two cities. Especially i believe across different industries salary level difference between two cities will vary too.

However needless to say, Taiwan people should be more friendly and hospitable compared to those in China. Food is great. Safety level is also great.

Keep in mind Taiwan use traditional Chinese instead of simplified one. Need to take that into consideration as well.

台北以其相对较低的工资水平而闻名。公平地说,考虑到相对较低的生活成本,有些的可能认为这仍然是可以接受的。不能根据我个的经历来下结论,从这里的生活和从别的那里听到的来看,你应该比较两个城市的工资水平尤其是不同行业的工资水平,两个城市之间的差异也会有所不同。

不用说,台湾的民应该比大陆的民更友好和好客。台北食物很好吃,治安也不错

请记住台湾使用繁体中文而简体中文。也需要考虑到这一点。

 

Anonymous

I lean towards Shanghai though it’s not a clear winner as Taipei has some advantages.

Taipei pros: Mostly friendly and polite people (not in a fake way)

我倾向于上海,尽管上海不是一个明确的赢家,毕竟台北有一些优势。

台北优点:大多友好礼貌(不是假惺惺的)

Taipei cons: stagnant economy (doesn’t feel like it’s booming at all), low wages/salaries for east Asia, doesn’t feel nearly as much of a hot spot that people from all over are flocking to, fewer people also means fewer opportunities for friends and dating, hot and humid for too long (Shanghai gets hot and humid as well but not for as long) and doesn’t really have 4 seasons, too much heavy rain/typhoons, despite having less air pollution a lot of the city looks gross honestly (buildings caked in black/brown/yellow), not a lot of remarkable architecture (most is pretty utilitarian and ugly), not much space to walk since many sidewalks are blocked with parked scooters and other things, if you learn Chinese (Mandarin) there, you’ll be learning the more difficult characters that only Taiwanese use rather than the simplified ones used in China and knowing the difficult ones won’t mean you’ll know the simplified ones by just looking at them.

台北的缺点: 经济停滞, 工资低,并未吸引世界各地的的蜂拥而来湿热持续太久(上海炎热潮湿但持续的时间没那么长)和四季不分明,太多雨和台风没有太多的非凡建筑(大多数非常实用,但外观丑陋), 没有足够空间,很多的行道停放摩托车如果你学习中文(普通话), 你将会学到台湾的才会使用的繁体字,而不是凤凰棋牌大陆使用的简体字。认识繁体字并不意味着你一眼就能看懂对应的简体字。

Shanghai pros: the city feels like it is booming and is the place to be right now in east Asia (though other cities in China may be growing more rapidly at this point), city feels a lot more spacious (it’s dense but doesn’t feel as dense as Taipei), wide variety of influence in the modern architecture (not just the tall ones, many newer residential buildings look classic European and North American influenced rather than “commie block” or utilitarian)

上海的优点: 这座城市发展迅速的口密度大, 各种现代建筑

Shanghai cons: people are less friendly overall compared to Taiwanese (some seem outright rude with no manners or empathy), some people are really gross spitting a lot, making gross sounds, letting their kids urinate/defecate in public places, more expensive than Taipei and cost is still going up

上海的缺点:台湾的相比,上海的总体上不太友好(有些的看起来很粗鲁,没有礼貌,也没有同情心),有些的随地吐痰,发出刺耳的声音,让孩子在公共场所小便,物价比台北贵,而且还在上涨

外文:https://www.quora.com/Should-I-work-in-Shanghai-or-Taipei

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