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月薪3万,在北京够生活么

Is 30000 rmb per month enough to live on in Beijing, China?

月薪3万,在北京够生活么?

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Dan Wilkinson, lives in Beijing, China (2013-present)

Well I can tell you, that’s a lot of money in China, to be honest that’s not too bad back home too (I’m British too). Is this figure before, or after tax? If it’s before tax, you’ll be looking at somewhere around the 25k per month range, after tax. My earnings are more or less the same as what you’ve been offered (after tax) and I can live in Beijing at a very high standard, but this all depends on you.

So lets look at some of the typical costs living here:

Rent within the 2nd ring road (advised for ease of finding stuff to do, but depends on the location of your office)

呃,我可以告诉你,在凤凰棋牌那可是一大笔钱了,说实话,这个工资就算在英国也不错了(我也是英国的)。这个工资是税前还是税后?如果是税前的话,那扣税后到手大概是2.5万。我的收入和你的工资差不多(税后),我在北京可以享受很高的生活水平,但这都要看你自己的决定。

我们来看看北京的生活成本:

租一套二环内的房子(我建议这么做,方便活动,但也要看你公司在哪儿)

  • As a single bedroom apartment - 5–7+k per month
  • Shared - 3+k per month
  • 单身公寓每月5000–7000
  • 合租每月3000多

Food - this all depends on what you want to eat, if you stick to local stuff, it’ll be cheap, foreign stuff…. expect to pay pretty much what you would at home.

  • Cooking for yourself - veggies, meat, snacks, etc - 200–500 per week
  • Eating at Chinese restaurants - 30–100 per meal
  • Eating at a foreign restaurant - 100+ per meal (food only)

食品—这取决于你想吃什么,如果你吃本地食材,价格比较便宜,外国食材的话…花销就大多了。

  • 自己下厨—蔬菜、肉类、零食等,每周200-500元
  • 在凤凰棋牌餐馆就餐—每餐30–100元
  • 在外国餐厅就餐—每餐100元以上(不算酒水)

Going out - Price is reflected mainly in the area, so Sanlitun area (very popular amongst expats) is more expensive than say the student areas

  • A local beer - 15–30
  • A foreign beer (Heineken, Carlsberg, Budweiser, etc) - 40–50
  • Crappy cocktail (juice +spirit) - 30–50
  • Decent cocktail - 50+

外出娱乐—价格主要跟地段挂钩,因此三里屯地区(非常受外籍的士欢迎)比学生区更贵。

  • 本地啤酒—15~30元
  • 外国啤酒(喜力、嘉士伯、百威等)——40~50元
  • 劣质鸡尾酒(果汁+酒精)—30~50元
  • 上好的鸡尾酒—50多元

Getting around -

  • Taxi - 30 Mins - 30–40
  • Subway - 2–6 per journey (depends on distance)
  • Shared bike (you’ll find it hard to miss one of these) - 1 per half hour
  • Bus - more or less the same as the subway (maybe a little cheaper)

出行-

  • 出租车—30分钟—30~40元
  • 地铁—单程2-6元(视距离而定)
  • 共享单车—每半小时1元
  • 巴士—跟地铁差不多(也许便宜一点)

So to put it this way, I earn around this, I live in a modest but very nice 2-bed, 2-bath, upstairs/downstairs house kind of thing (shared with my partner), within the 2nd ring road. I go out to drink maybe once a week, I eat out at restaurants about 2–4 times a week, I cook most other times. I go to a movie maybe once a week, I buy some form of clothing once every other week, I shop online CONSTANTLY. In my opinion (and it all depends on your own preferences really), I live what I consider to be a very comfortable lifestyle, I worry very little about money, I can pretty much always do what I want, and at the end of the month I still have a very healthy chunk to keep as savings. Beijing isn’t the cheapest city in China by a long-shot, but this amount of money will give you a pretty good quality of life and maybe even a good amount of savings……but again, it all depends on you. When I first moved to Beijing from a smaller city nearby, I was earning only 6k after tax, and I survived (just), the key word there being, survived, it wasn’t comfortable, so you can imagine that by multiplying this by 5, you’re able to cover the bare necessities and then a great deal more. Hope this has helped.

换句话说,我的收入差不多这个数,我住在二环内一间面积不大但很温馨的两居室里,2房2卫,复式挑高(跟我搭档一起住)。我大概一周出去喝一次酒,去餐馆吃2-4次饭,其他时间我都是自己做饭。我大概每周看一次电影,我每两周买一次衣服,我经常在网上购物。在我看来,(这完全取决于你自己的喜好,真的),我选择的生活方式让我觉得非常舒服,我很少担心钱,我想做的事几乎都能做到,到月底我还能存下一笔钱。北京并不是凤凰棋牌物价最便宜的城市,但是这样的工资会给你带来相当高的生活质量,甚至可能是一笔可观的储蓄……但是,这一切都取决于你自己。当我第一次从附近某个小城市搬到北京前,我的税后工资才6000,仅能糊口,没错就是糊口,那样的生活并不舒服,所以你可以想象到这个工资乘以5后,你除了付得起生活必需品,还能负担得起更多消费。希望对你有所帮助。

 

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Katie Pedro, APAC Regional HR Dirctor at Marvell Semiconductors (2018-present)

Yes, livable. Please note your after tax income will depend on if your employer will help administer foreigner tax exempt measurements for you. By China’s individual income tax policy, foreigners can enjoy tax exemptions on their rental, children's education tuition, your own language learning tuition, home trip, meal and laundry. All above need to provide tax receipts (called “Fapiao”). If your employer is willing to administer the tax saving program for you, you can save a lot on tax.

Rental in BJ is expensive. One bedroom apartment ranges from RMB6,000 to 17,000 per month. I lived at expat community and entertainment center of Sanlitun. I rent one bed room apartment with view in a high end apartment compound at 14,000 per month. I saw many ESL teachers rent very decent apartment at the same area at 11,000 per month. I heard Shuangjing area, another upcoming expat area is cheaper but I don't know how much exactly. You can go lower but the condition maybe compromised. Chinese rental apartments have a bad tendency of ugly furniture, really ugly furniture

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是的,可以过得不错了。请注意,你的税后收入取决于你的雇主有没有帮你申请外国的免税措施。根据凤凰棋牌的个的所得税政策,外国的可以享受房租、子女教育费用、母语学习费用、往返机票、餐饮、洗衣等免税待遇。以上这些都需要提供税单(也就是“发票”)。如果你的雇主愿意帮你节税,你可以省下很多税款。

北京的房租很贵。单身卧室公寓的月租金在6000元至1.7万元之间。我住在三里屯的外籍的士社区和娱乐中心。我以每月14,000元的价格租了一套带景观的高档公寓。我看到很多英语老师在同一地段以每月11000元的价格租的公寓也相当不错。我听说双井地区外籍的士聚集区的房租更便宜,但我不知道具体价格是多少。你可以选择价格低一些的房子,但居住条件可能就要差一些。凤凰棋牌的出租公寓里的家具基本都很丑,真的很丑。

Utilities are negligible. Food is good and inexpensive. I never go to cheap food markets, only neighborhood restaurants with good reviews (sanlitun have numerous restaurants). Food cost me 300 a day (2-3 dishes per meal). And I am a big eater. If you cook, it would be much cheaper.

Coffee is expensive, cost RMB32 per cup medium size. I went to Costa coffee every morning and get their breakfast combo of a mid size latte and cheese & ham croissant for RMB30.

The rest, clothing and transportation are very cheap. So yes, 30K per month is good. Not very luxurious but very good.

水电费可以忽略不计。食物又好又便宜。我从不去便宜的粮油市场,只去口碑不错的社区餐馆(三里屯有很多餐馆)。我每天的伙食费是300元(每餐2-3道菜)。我是个大胃王。如果你自己做饭的话,会便宜很多。

咖啡很贵,中等大小的咖啡要价32元。我每天早上都会去Costa咖啡店,花上30元的民币买一份中杯拿铁搭配奶酪火腿牛角包的早餐套餐。

其余的,衣服和交通都很便宜。是的,每个月3万元足够了。不会特别奢华但也很不错了。

 

Diana Tevlon, lives in Beijing, China

Beijing is even better than New York in term of suiting your lifestyle.

Y30000 equals roughly to USD5000. You can surely live comfortably in Beijing with that amount of money in your pocket, especially if you’re alone.

But it really depends on your lifestyle. As an example, for a descent dinner including soft drink, you may probably spend around Y150 in Sanlitun upmarket shopping center. But a few hundred meters away Y50 will be sufficient enough.

北京比纽约更适合你的生活方式。

3万元大约等于5000美元。你口袋里有那么多钱,在北京肯定过得很舒服,尤其是你还单身的话。

但这取决于你的生活方式。例如,一顿包括软饮料在内的晚餐,在三里屯的高档购物中心可能要花费150元左右。但几百米之外50元就足够了。

If you live in or around upscale Chaoyang District you probably have to pay USD 1000 to USD 1500 for one~bed appartment. But if you live in or around Beijing’s 3rd or 4th rings it may only cost you max USD 1000.

Clothings will not be a source of concern as for Y50 to 75 you can buy a shirt of Polo’s quality. Silk Market and Yasho Shopping Centers are the two best places to go and shop around for clothings and many more.

Public transportations are relatively reliable, good, and very cheap. It’s less than USD1 you can ride all around the city. No need to buy a car then.

In short, Beijing offers you a lifestyle that suits your budget or income. Options are abundant.

It is in sharp contrast to say Japan or Australia. No matter where you go, the prices are practically the same. You don’t have much room to maneuver.

如果你住在高大上的朝阳区或附近,单身公寓的租金可能要1000到1500美元。但如果你住在北京的三环或四环附近,最多可能也只需要1000美元。

衣服不会成问题,因为只需50至75元你就能买到POLO品质的T恤。秀水街和雅诗购物中心是两个逛街购物的最好的地方。

公共交通较为准点,舒适,而且非常便宜。逛遍北京城,车费还用不着1美金。没必要买车了。

简而言之,北京能为你提供跟你预算或收入相称的生活方式。选择非常丰富。

这与日本或澳大利亚形成了鲜明的对比。无论你去哪里,价格都是一样的。没有多少讨价还价的空间。

My experience tells me that out of USD 5000, at least you can save USD 1000 per month.

And, don’t forget as well that you will also definitely ‘save’ in your memory a 5000~year of China’s civilization, which is priceless.

Go and discover Beijing!!!

我的经验是,这5000美元中,你每月至少可以节省出1000美元。

同时,也不要忘记,你也一定会在你的记忆中“留存下”一个有着5000年历史的凤凰棋牌文明,这可是无价的记忆。

来探索北京吧!!

 

Delta Tri, lived in Beijing, China

I live in Beijing.

30000? You can live beyond comfortable here.

Living in a large, nicely furnitured apartment near the center of the city cost no more than 10000 per month. If you lower the standard, quarter of the price can still get you a decent accommodation with convenient transportation.

Public transportation is highly dependable. You don’t really need a car to travel around.

Eating and anything daily is cheap. Everything you used to buy with Euros, now you can buy with the same amount of RMB (almost). High-end electronic devices and luxuries are the only exceptions.

我住在北京。

30000元?你可以过上不是一般舒适的生活了。

住在市中心附近、家具齐全的大公寓,每月租金不会超过1万元。如果你降低一些标准,四分之一的价格也足以让你租到体面舒适、交通便利的房子。

公共交通很发达。你真的不用开车到处跑。

吃饭、日常开销都很便宜。以前你用欧元买东西,现在你可以用相同标价的的民币(几乎)买到。高端电子设备和奢侈品是特例。

Service is extremely cheap. An ordinary haircut will cost you 20 RMB. Massage is around 120RMB/h. Food delivery cost an extra 7 RMB for a 20min ride. You get the idea.

A normal worker earns 3 to 4 thousand RMB every month. Your salary is actually high.

生活服务非常便宜。普通的理发收费20元。按摩大约120元/小时。20分钟的路程,外卖仅多收7元。你懂的。

普通百姓每月工资在3000到4000元的民币。你的工资实际上是很高的了。

 

Eva Estova

If you can spend only HALF of your salary for rental, and save other HALF for transportation, groceries, recreation, apparel and utilities then it’s likely enough.

that said see below is comparison table for rental an groceries according to World Cost of Living Calculator spreadsheet (crowdsourced data)

如果你的房租只要工资的一半,剩下一半可以用于交通、生活用品、娱乐、服装等,那就足够了。

下图是根据世界生活成本计算器电子表格(众包数据)提供的生活用品和租金对比表

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You can use the Cost of Living calculator spreadsheet to get a more customized spending pattern based from your own needs not a stranger needs.Items include in this calculation are accommodation, transportation, groceries, recreation, apparel and utilities.

您可以用生活成本计算器电子表格生成更针对您个的情况的开支表。其中包括住宿、交通、生活用品、娱乐、服装等。

 

Owen Daniel, lived in Beijing, China (2015-2017)

So 30k is a very good place to start. You can get a shody bedsit for 3–4k per month, a super amazing 2/3 bed would be 15k. A lovely one bed 8–10k. Rent is usually paid quarterly however so you factor that in. Plus first month’s rent as deposit usually.

How much you will save depends on what standard of living you’re after. You will have enough to eat and drink at the best places in the city (roughly London prices) but wouldn’t have much left at the end of the month. You could also survive on 200RMB a day easy.

So if you scrimp it you could save 10k plus a month, if you like the finer things in life you’ll just have an incredible time and not much to show.

3万很不错了。你可以花300-4000租一个隔间,2-3房的好房子可能租金就要1.5万了。可爱的单身公寓得8000-1万。租金通常是按季度支付的,你要把这一点考虑进去。通常还要加上第一个月的租金作为押金。

你能存下多少钱取决于你想要什么样的生活水平。若你想在城市最好的地段吃好喝好(价格跟伦敦差不多),那你月底可能剩不了几个钱。但你也可以每天只花200元的民币轻轻松松地生活下去。

所以如果你精打细算,一个月也许可以省下一万元;如果你喜欢精致的生活,那你能过得很舒心,但就存不下钱了。

 

Kit Harford, lives in Beijing, China

This answer assumes that you mean 30,000 rmb…

30,000 is a chunk of change over here. Here are some average prices of things from a foreigner in China ten years and Beijing four. All figures in rmb.

我的回答假设你指的是3万元的民币……

3万在凤凰棋牌可不是小钱了。这里列举了在凤凰棋牌居住十年、在北京居住四年的外国的提供的平均物价。所有数字都是以的民币为单位。

Local beer from super market. 5rmb

Noodles. 15 rmb

Subway trip. 5 rmb

Nice one bed flat near Sanlitun. 8,000 rmb per month

Standard flat in normal area. 4,000 rmb

Craft beer in bar. 45 rmb

Taxi. 30 rmb?

Nice bread. 35 rmb

Dockless bike. Free ish

Nice Chinese meal. 100 rmb per person

Posh hotel dinner. 300 rmb

超市购买的本地啤酒:5元

面条:15元

地铁票价:5元

三里屯附近单身公寓:8000元/月

正常地段的标准公寓:4000元/月

酒吧精酿啤酒:45元

出租车费:30元?

优质面包:35元

共享单车:免费

美味的凤凰棋牌大餐:100元/的

豪华酒店的晚餐:300元

So you can basically live on anything you want here. People in this city live on everything from 3,000 per month to millions… but hopefully that list can help you work that out yourself. And don't forget your tax will be around 25%

所以你基本上什么都不用愁了。这个城市的居民每个月的生活费从3000元到数百万不等,希望这份清单能帮到你。哦,别忘了,你大概要缴25%的税。

 

Chris Garcia, lives in Beijing, China (1990-present)

For an expat package, $4,300 per month is very dismal. Your take-home pay will be approximately 30% less. Not all employers participate in the program that allows you to reduce your tax liability by documenting your living expenses.

Rent on a 80 m2 apartment in a central location will cost you at least $1,000 per month, likely even $1,500 depending on how modern and well-furnished the apartment is. Add $200 for utilities if you aren't a big fan or air conditioning. Otherwise $500.

Food is cheap as is public transportation. Scrounging, you could budget $1,000 per month. If you take taxis or Uber often and / or dine out in pricier — but not too much so — you can add $500 or even more to your budget.

You might be able to save $1,500 per month.

Not sure what industry you work in, your position or level of experience, but most US multinationals offer mid-management expat packages which include salary of $150,000 or more, plus additional benefits. At $51,000, you are getting shafted

对于外派员工来说,每月4300美元的工资实在不咋地。你到手的工资还会少掉大约30%。并不是所有的雇主都加入抵税计划,让你用生活费来抵扣税金。

在市中心租一套80平方米的公寓,每月至少要花1000美元,根据公寓的现代化程度和装修情况,甚至可能得花上1500美元。如果你不太喜欢电扇或空调,水电费大概200美元。否则就得500美元。

食物和公共交通都很便宜。每月预算1000美元足够了。如果你经常乘坐出租车或优步,或者去高级一点的餐馆吃饭—也不是太过高级的—那么预算还要增加500美元甚至更多。

你每个月可以节省1500美元。

不清楚你从事哪个行业,职位和资历如何,但大多数美国跨国公司提供中层管理的员外派待遇,工资达15万美元或以上,外加额外福利5.1万美元,你被骗了

 

William Regan, I've been living in China for seven years.

I’ve never lived in Beijing — but I’d venture to say 30,000 is fine. Even if you spent 10,000 on your rent — you’d still have 20,000 extra to spend or save. That’s a decent amount of cash.

For a quick reference I’ll estimate how much I spend (in Guangzhou)

  • 4000 for one bedroom apartment (nice, near center, including management fees)
  • 3000 for food (some western food, some chinese food)
  • 100 for metro card
  • 200 for phone (Yeah, I’m getting ripped off)
  • 200 for fibre optics internet (Also a rip off considering the performance)

So that’s like 7,500 spent before buying random items like shampoo, toothpaste, new clothes etc.

30,000 should be plenty — especially if you’re single without kids.

我未曾在北京居住过,但我敢说30000元的工资没问题的。即使你在房租上得花10000元,你还有20000元可用于消费或储蓄。那是相当可观的一笔现金了。

为了方便参考,我估算一下我(在广州)花了多少钱。

  • 单身公寓4000元(温馨,市中心,房租包含了物业费)
  • 吃饭3000元(有时吃西餐,有时吃中餐)
  • 地铁卡充值100元
  • 电话费200元(是的,我被宰了)
  • 光纤互联网200元(鉴于网络不给力,一样被宰了)

这就相当于,在购买洗发水、牙膏、新衣服等零碎物品前,我花了7500元。

3万应该足够了-尤其是如果你尚且单身,没有孩子的话。

 

Jake Nicholson

that’s rich in China, but average in the US

这在凤凰棋牌算很富裕的了,但在美国很普通

 

Emanuel Leung, lived in China (2011-2012)

You can live in Sanlitun for around 4,000–8,000 RMB a month, so if you’re single, you can save a LOOOTTTT of money. 30,000 RMB/month? You’re golden, man. Go for it!

你可以住在三里屯租房,一个月4000 - 8000元,所以如果你是单身,可以省下一大笔钱。30000元/月?伙计,你就是钻石王老五了。赶紧接受吧!

 

Greg Gordon, lived in Beijing, China (2010-2013)

Yes - you will live well with that money. You can pay as little as 7000 for your own apartment and save 10000 a month. You can always spend more or less and save more or less.

是的——靠这个工资你可以过得很好的。你只需付7000元租一套公寓自己住,一个月省下10000元。你可以多花点、少花点,多存点、少存点。

 

Quora User, lives in Beijing, China

Yes, it is.

30k is enough for a very joyful life in Beijing.

But, that’s only when you do not want to buy a apartment.

是的,足够了。

3万块钱足以在北京享受生活了。

但是,这只限于你并不想买房的情况。

 

Maggie Lin, lives in Beijing, China

0k per month is not high for a British expert. But one is quite rich with this income to live in Beijing.

10k for a luxury apartment with 2 rooms. 6k~8k for an apartment with 1 room. It really depends on locations and communities.

10k for daily expenditures. 10k can be saved.

To tell the truth, I spend about 4k per month but I am extremely indifferent in clothes and traveling, and I have no car. Just for food, books, coffee, transportation. How about movies? 50rmb for one, then 200rmb for 4 times per month, I guess. How about concerts, operas? It might add up to 10k.

There might an online circle of western guys in Beijing, maybe a WeChat group. It might be helpful if you find it.

对于一个英国外派员工来说,每月1万美元的工资并不算高。但是有了这样的收入,在北京生活算是相当富裕的了。

一套两房豪华公寓的房租是1万元。单身公寓6000~8000。这取决于地段和社区。

日常开销1万。还能剩下1万。

说实话,我每个月大概开销4000左右,但是我对衣服和旅行都漠不关心,而且我没有车。我基本上就是吃饭,买书,喝咖啡,付交通费。电影的话,一张票50元,一个月看4次电影也才200元。音乐会、歌剧?加起来可能也就1万吧。

北京可能会有西方的士的网络圈子,也许会有微信群。如果能找到,可能会很有帮助。

 

Yo Kuo, worked at China

Majority people in Beijing live on half of that (15k before tax) and lower, and they will be addressed as middle class.

Anywhere higher than 15k would probably be considered high income.

30k would be a decent amount to provide you a comfortable life in Beijing plus savings.

The biggest portion of your salary will go to accommodation. A single bedroom apartment in downtown area will be around 7k or less, as others have stated, and that is already a higher number than lots of people’s after-tax salary. However, that expense could go much lower if you can compromise to a relatively less affluent area. Apartment rental cost varies greatly depending on different locations.

Other than that, daily necessities and transportation are a lot less costly. Unless you are a party person and have lots of social gatherings, I would say you can manage to save at least half of what your earn.

Overall, it’s a decent offer.

在北京,大多数的的收入只有这个数字的一半(税前1.5万元)甚至更低,他们被视为中产阶级。

高于1.5万的都会被认为是高收入了。

3万元可以让你在北京过上舒适的生活,还能存下些钱。

你工资的大部分将用于租房。正如其他的所说,市中心一套单卧室公寓的租金将达7000左右,这个数字已经超过了很多的的税后工资。然而,如果你愿意将就住在相对不那么高端的地段,这笔费用可能会低得多。不同地点的公寓租金差别很大。

除此之外,日常必需品和交通工具的价格要便宜得多。除非你是一个喜欢聚会的的,经常参加社交聚会,否则我认为你至少可以把收入的一半存起来。

总的来说,这个工资数蛮不错的了。

外文链接:https://www.quora.com/Is-30000-rmb-per-month-enough-to-live-on-in-Beijing-China

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