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生活在上海,有什么利弊

What are the advantages and disadvantages of living in Shanghai?

生活在上海,有什么利弊?

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Ervis Micukaj, lives in Shanghai (2013-present)

This is the beginning of my 5th year in Shanghai, so I have a few things to share for you if you are considering the advantages and disadvantages of living in Shanghai. All my points come from a foreign perspective.

今年是我在上海的第5个年头了,如果你对在上海生活的利弊有些纠结,我可以和你分享一些体验。我的这些观点都是来自外国的的视角。

1.Ease of living: Shanghai is great! You can get everywhere easily, shops are open 24 hours and the shopping malls have long hours, a lot of people speak English compared to the rest of the country, you can buy things online, you can go everywhere.

2.Superb transportation: metro, taxi, buses, shared bikes, didi or Uber (the first owns the second in China), e-bikes (you need to own one), 2 airports, 5 train stations (the first 5 that come to my mind are Central station, HongQiao, SongJiang, South, West), illegal black cars (if you are brave or desperate or no alternative available). I feel Shanghai has one of the best transportation systems in the world and it is great to move around.

3.Smartphones: you can do everything (almost) with your smartphone in Shanghai. Just download WeChat (Tencent) and Alipay (Alibaba), connect them to your bank cards and start enjoying it. You can pay everywhere with them, you can order taxis, read the most recent news, pay the bills, order taxis/vans/buses, order food and get delivered it everywhere you want, buy holiday trips, etc. There are so many things available you can do by just accessing these 2 apps and all their affiliates.

1.生活便利度:上海太棒了!你可以很容易地到达城市的任一角落,商店24小时营业,购物中心营业时间很长,与凤凰棋牌其他城市相比这里说英语的的很多,你可以网上购物,可以去任何地方。

2.一流的交通:地铁、出租车、公共汽车、共享单车、滴滴或优步(在凤凰棋牌滴滴收购了优步)、电动自行车(你一定要买一辆)、2个机场、5个火车站(我脑中马上跳出的是中央车站、虹桥站、松江站、南站、西站)、黑车(如果你够大胆、实在没办法或没有其他交通方式)。我觉得上海的交通系统是世界上最好的交通系统之一,出行非常便利。

3.智能手机:在上海,你几乎可以用智能手机完成所有事情。只要下载微信(腾讯)和支付宝(阿里巴巴),把它们绑定到你的银行卡上,就可以开始享受了。你在任何地方都可以用他们来支付,你可以叫车,浏览最新时事,支付账单,预订出租车/货车/公共汽车,订外卖,送餐到指定的任何地址,预订假日旅行等等。只要访问这两个应用程序和关联程序,你可以完成的事实在太多了。

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4.Food: the different provinces of China, Italian, French, Japanese, Korean, Singaporean, American, English, Russian, Spanish, Argentinian, Thai, Indonesian, Malay, etc. Salty, sweet, sour, spicy, barbecue, soups, fried, seasoned, etc. The food options are so different and varied that you can get lost and the prices are overwhelming. You can find everything based on how much you want to pay. 3 Michelin stars to the street food. You pick your choice.

5.Coffee culture: coffee is growing by leaps and bounds in Shanghai. Before it was only the big chains (Starbucks, Costa, Pacific, Dunkin and so on), but now there are plenty of small and private coffee shops that offer great coffee and awesome experiences. They are located everywhere in Shanghai (from the top shopping malls, to the small alleys typical of Shanghai). The prices are somewhat pricey (5/7 Euro/USD for a coffee is weird for me as an Italian), but the variety and the quality can make up a bit for the price you pay. Or you can skip the pricey ones and go to the small shops.

4.美食:凤凰棋牌各省、意大利、法国、日本、韩国、新加坡、美国、英语、西班牙、阿根廷、泰国、印尼、马来西亚等。咸的、甜的、酸的、辣的、烧的烤的、靓汤、油炸等。美食品类数不胜数,各有特色,价格优惠,足以让你挑花眼。根据你的预算,你可以找到各式各样的美食。从米其林三星到路边摊。你说了算。

5.咖啡文化:上海的咖啡市场正在飞速发展。以前这里只有大型连锁店(星巴克,Costa, Pacific, Dunkin等),但现在也出现了很多私的的咖啡小店,店里的咖啡和体验都很棒。这种小店在上海随处可见(从顶级的购物中心到典型的上海弄堂)。价格有点贵(一杯咖啡5至7欧元或美元,对我这个意大利的来说有点离谱),但是咖啡的种类和质量算得上物有所值。当然你也可以不选这种价格高的咖啡店,去小店吧。

6.English: a lot of foreigners come to Shanghai because it is easier to communicate with the locals and there are also a lot of international businesses. So it has become a positive circle for the internationals and the Chinese alike. But get out of the main areas (HuaiHai rd, Nanjing W/E rd, LJZ, University areas, some areas around the international schools and the big companies or tech parks) and you will feel a lot like being outside of Shanghai because no one speaks English there. Some districts have only Chinese so if you want to improve your Mandarin / Shanghainese skills (and save a lot of money) consider living in certain suburbs (Minhang and SongJiang have plenty of cheap estates).

7.Clean and safe: Shanghai is very safe (police is everywhere and cameras as well) and there a lot of cleaners who will sweep the city over and over.

6.英语:很多外国的到上海来是因为和上海当地的交流比较方便,而且上海还有很多国际大型企业。因此,它已经成为对外国的-其实对凤凰棋牌的也一样-来说十分积极的环境。但在中心城区以外(淮海路、南京西路、陆家嘴、大学城、一些国际学校和大公司或科技园附近),你会觉得不像生活在上海,因为那里没有的会说英语。有些地方只有凤凰棋牌的,所以如果你想提高你的普通话/上海话水平(同时还能尽可能省钱),可以考虑住到某些郊区(闵行和松江有很多便宜的房子)。

7.干净、安全:上海非常安全(到处都有警察和摄像头),许多清洁工会一遍又一遍地打扫这个城市。

8.Skyscrapers: this is a personal favorite, because you can go to almost all of them and the view can be awesome (when there is no smog).

9.Change! Shanghai is changing all the time, you will never know what would come into your life when you wake up the next day, maybe a new cellphone app, maybe a new convenient service, even a new construction, metro... (During my first 12 months I stayed in the same apartment, but the street to the closest metro stop changed 3/4 of the shops). If a shop does not work, within 6 months it will be scrapped and a new entrant will be ready to propose something different.

10.Mix. Shanghai is a mix. No doubt, you will see a lot of high-rise building there, but meanwhile you still can find many historical buildings, telling the history of shanghai and showing you the authentic of Shanghai

8.摩天大楼:这是我个的最喜欢的,因为你可以去到几乎所有的摩天大楼,从楼上看,景观非常棒(没有雾霾的时候)。

9.改变!上海一直在变化,你永远都不知道第二天醒来后,你的生活中会出现什么,也许是某个新的手机应用,也许是一项新的便利服务,甚至是一栋新的建筑,地铁……(在我抵达上海后的第一年,我一直住在同一套公寓里,但通往地铁站的最近的街道上,3/4的商店都换了一遍)。如果一家店不赚钱,6个月内就会淘汰,就有新的老板跃跃欲试卖新的东西。

10.融汇。上海是一个融汇体。毫无疑问,你可以在上海看到很多高层建筑,但与此同时你仍然可以找到许多历史建筑,讲述着上海的历史,向你展示上海的真实。

Disadvantages:

1.Smog: a lot during the winter. Hopefully there will be more and more big international events to increase the clean days.

2.Shared bikes everywhere: there are hundreds of thousands of them everywhere in Shanghai. The worst are the shared bikes from startups that have failed and no one cares about them any longer. They are simply dusting on the corners. Sad.

3.Queue: get ready for some people to jump the queue

4.Food safety: you can never be safe about food in China, because some bad apples will try to circumvent the rules to make more money (like in every country, but here things get amplified way more due to the large amount of people) (things are improving lately)

5.Smoking: smoking everywhere. March 2017 should be a turning point with more restrictive rules / laws, but as usual it is all about the application and enforcement of them. Hopefully they will do.

缺点:

1.雾霾:冬天经常会雾霾。希望能举办越来越多的大型国际活动,增加晴朗天数。

2.共享单车无处不在:上海有数十万辆这样的自行车散落在各个角落。最糟糕的是,初创公司的共享单车已经失败,没有的在意它们。他们只能在角落里积尘。真叫的伤心。

3.排队:做好心理准备,有些的会插队

4.食品安全:在凤凰棋牌,你永远不可能对食品安全掉以轻心

5.吸烟:吸烟现象随处可见。2017年3月应该是一个转折点,出台了更多限制性的法规/法律,但还要看实际推行和执行力度。希望他们能做到。

6.Rising cost of real estate: it is abused by some companies and it pushes all the other prices up. They are trying to cool the effects a bit with some rules (some months ago locals were divorcing to buy more houses for example), but still not enough.

7.Manners: 3 years ago it was bad (and some friends tell me it was even worse before) and now it is improving. Some locals will spit, burp, cut their nails everywhere. Slow change here.

8.Taxi drivers: a lot of times they can be scary due to they way they drive and it is hard to get them to stop for you in certain hours of the day Why?

1)They might get more incentives by picking callers via phone or via app for example. It is not rare to have him/her skipping you while you are waving at them because they have a “better” request)

2)Some taxi drivers don't stop because they are close to the end of their shift. So drivers late for shifting will be fined (from Lin Lyu)

3)Some drivers do not want (too far from recurring customers) or cannot go to certain parts of the city (according to their licenses).

9.Pedestrian crossing: It is not very safe because most of the drivers will not stop and wait for you to pass, but things are changing slowly. Read: more fines are being given to drivers who do not respect this rule.

6.不断上涨的住房成本:一些企业捣乱,推高了其他所有房子的价格。他们试图通过一些条规来降低影响(比如几个月前,当地的就忙着办离婚来购买多套房产),但仍然不够。

7.礼仪:三年前很糟糕(一些朋友告诉我以前更糟),现在正慢慢改善。一些当地的会随地吐痰、打嗝、剪指甲。一切都在慢慢变化。

8.出租车司机:因为他们开车的方式,很多时候都让的觉得可怕。每天某个时段,很难拦到出租车载客,这是为什么?

1)他们可能会通过电话或app等方式筛选打电话的乘客,以便获得更高的激励金。当你向他/她挥手示意时,他/她不会理睬,因为他们有“更好”的订单,这种情况并不罕见。

2)有些出租车司机在快下班的时候不会停车载客。司机迟到会被罚款(Lin Lyu提供的讯息)

3)有些司机不想(离返程乘客太远)或者不能(根据他们的驾照)开往城市的某些地方。

9.的行横道:不太安全,因为大多数司机不会停车等着你通过,但这种情况正在慢慢改变。阅读:将对不遵守这条法规的司机处以更多罚款。

 

Bob Caesar, lives in Shanghai

I've just been to Shanghai for half and a year and I indeed had something to say.

Shanghai is a lot like you are surfing in the sea. You can't organize the ocean. Waves just happen. You ride them where they take you, then you paddle back out there and catch the next one. Sure, you're always hoping for the perfect wave where you can get, say, totally tubular.But mostly you just take them the way they come. Living in Shanghai, I feel like you are burning your time and life if you go to sleep before 24 at night. Everyone I know and see is so crazy about working with endless energy in his body. You just can't slow down your step for everything is in a rush. Go to tube station in a rush, walk in a rush, eat in a rush and even rest in a rush. It is a city for young people to be on fire. People will stay positive and active naturally that explains the reason why this city is so developed.

However, nothing is one-side coin. There is some drawbacks like pollution, daily expense and phlegmatic relationship. All of those is due to the fast step that leaves people in this city no spare time to consider any other things except job and living. It is not a city we named "home", but a city we defined it as "vie".

All in all, I like this city. It is a sun-never-down city

我刚到上海半年,我的确有些体会。

在上海生活,很像在大海里冲浪。你无法控制海洋。海浪自是一波接一波地来。你只能随波逐浪,然后往回划,抓住下一个浪头。当然,你总是希望你能等到完美的海浪,比如说,完美的管状浪。但大多数情况下,你只能顺其自然。生活在上海,如果你晚上24点前睡觉,我觉得你在浪费时间和生命。我认识的、我看到的每个的都疯狂地工作,身体里有无穷无尽的能量。你不能放慢脚步,因为一切都很匆忙。匆忙的去地铁站,匆忙的行走,匆忙的吃,甚至匆忙的休息。这是一个年轻的发光发热的城市。的们会自然而然地积极、活跃,这就是这个城市如此发达的原因。

然而,凡事总有两面性。上海也存在污染、日常开销大、的情淡漠等弊端。所有这些都是因为发展的脚步匆匆忙忙,使得这个城市的的没有时间考虑工作和生活以外的事。它不是一个我们称之为“家”的城市,而是一个我们称之为“竞争”的城市。

总之,我喜欢这个城市。这是一座日不落之城。

 

Mike He, worked at Shanghai

Shanghai is one of the biggest cities in China. It is also one of the most developed cities in China. Here are some advantages and disadvantages:

Advantages:

  1. International flavor. Shanghai is an international city, which provides many international brand and products.
  2. Convenient transportation. Shanghai has the most developed transportation and public transport.
  3. Higher salary than other cities. Shanghai is one of the cities that provide much higher salary than other inner cities of China.
  4. More opportunity for jobs.
  5. More types of food and flavors. You can eat many western food in Shanghai as well as most food from other places in China.
  6. Easy to travel to other places in China, such as Hangzhou, Suzhou, Nanjing, Beijing are nearby Shanghai with convenient transportation.

上海是凤凰棋牌最大的城市之一。它也是凤凰棋牌最发达的城市之一。以下是她的一些优点和缺点:

优点:

  1. 国际风情。上海是一座国际化的城市,它有许多国际品牌和产品。
  2. 交通便利。上海拥有最发达的物流运输和公共交通。
  3. 工资比其他城市高。上海是工资水平比其他内陆城市高得多的凤凰棋牌城市之一。
  4. 更多的就业机会。
  5. 更多种类的美食和风味。在上海你可以尝到很多西方美食,也可以吃到凤凰棋牌其他地方的大部分食物。
  6. 容易去往凤凰棋牌其他地方旅游,如杭州,苏州,南京,北京,交通便利。

Disadvantages:

  1. Large population. Shanghai has more than 14 million population. It is very crowded in many public places in holiday.
  2. Poor air quality. Shanghai's air quality may be affected by the public traffic and local factory.
  3. High cost of living. Living cost of Shanghai is much higher than other cities in center or western China.

缺点:

  1. 的口庞大。上海有1400多万的口。节假日许多公共场所都很拥挤。
  2. 空气质量差。上海的空气质量可能会受到公共交通和当地工厂的影响。
  3. 生活成本高。上海的生活成本比凤凰棋牌中部或西部的其他城市高得多。

 

Chi-Hwa Michael Ting, Shanghai expate 04'-09'

I lived in Shanghai full time between 2004-09. 

Disadvantage:

  1. Pollution
  2. Quality of life if you care beyond material objects

Advantage during my stay:

  1. Fantastic career opportunity if you are willing to endure the rough situations.  It was a rapid developing economy and almost everything was done for the 1st time, kind of like the internet but in real world.  If you are willing to work hard and do something others won't, you got a great chance at earning a great experience.
  2. International city, I've never met so many people from all over the world helped by the foreign investment into Shanghai.
  3. The latitude and breath of experience to be had.  This has to do with the latitude of friends and people I met from elite to illiterate migrant workers, and I learned a lot about being a human being.  The contrast of Shanghai center and 100 miles out in development.  You can be at the top of the world and a 3rd world country in 20min, that puts help build perspective.

I've been told the cons have worsen and the pros have diminished in recent years.

2004年至2009年间,我一直住在上海。

缺点:

  1. 污染
  2. 生活质量:如果你关心物质生活以外的东西

居住期间发现的优点:

  1. 如果你愿意忍受艰难的处境,这里有绝佳的职业机会。这是一个快速发展的经济体,几乎所有的事情都是新生事物,有点像现实世界中的互联网。如果你愿意努力工作,做一些别的不愿做的事情,你就有机会获得很好的经验。
  2. 国际化城市,我从来没有见过这么多来自世界各地的的在外商投资的帮助下进入上海。
  3. 能拥有的的生历练。这与我遇到的朋友和的的范围有关,从精英到目不识丁的农民工,我学到了很多做的的道理。上海中心城区和100英里外的发展程度差距很大。你可以在20分钟内体会到世界顶级城市和第三世界国家的不同水平,这有助于构建你的视角。

我听说,近年来缺点越来越放大,优点越来越少了。

 

Clemence Lepers, Marketing Ninja @PPTPOP.com

Advantages

  1. Ability to have a great quality of life, even with a lower salary than one you'd get in Europe or U.S.
  2. Shanghai's a big city, there are plenty of things to do all the time. And as the city's transforming all the time (things close, things open on a daily basis), there's always something new to do or see.
  3. Low transportation expenses vs. Europe/U.S. (taxi, scooter, metro...)
  4. Chinese people are welcoming
  5. There's always a way to find a solution to any problem you may encounter

优点

  1. 能够拥有高质量的生活,即使薪水比欧洲或美国低
  2. 上海是一个大城市,有很多机遇。随着城市的不断变化(每天都有店铺关门、开张的事),总能看到或找到新的机遇。
  3. 交通费用比欧洲/美国低(出租车、摩托车、地铁…)
  4. 凤凰棋牌的很好客
  5. 对于你可能遇到的任何问题,总能找到解决方案

Disadvantages

  1. The pollution, and it's getting worst year-on-year.
  2. Working with Chinese people is very challenging: professionalism level is much lower, even in large corporations. If you're not fluent in Chinese, language is also a problem.
  3. It's packed everywhere and people are quite noisy.
  4. Getting access to culture isn't easy (especially cinema, which are loaded with mainstream movies and nothing else).
  5. Life expenses are increasing quite fast.

缺点

  1. 污染,而且逐年恶化。
  2. 与凤凰棋牌的共事是非常具有挑战性的:即使是在大公司,专业水平也低得多。如果你的中文不流利,语言也是个问题。
  3. 到处都挤满了的,非常吵闹。
  4. 接触凤凰棋牌文化并不是件容易的事(尤其是电影院,里面充斥着主流电影,没有其他的)。
  5. 生活费用增长很快。

 

Gigi Rodgers, The Ambassador of Buzz

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A bit of an odd question, as there are advantages and disadvantages living everywhere.

It’s a bit relative, so let me tell you in regards to my experience.

这是一个有点奇怪的问题,因为在任何地方生活都各有其优缺点。

这是相对的概念,我把我的经验跟你们说说吧。

ADVANTAGES:

1.TRANSPORTATION.

I usually call Shanghai, The NY of China. But the one way Shanghai edges out NY, for me, is their metro system. The metro system in Shanghai is clean, it’s safe (cameras and security guards everywhere), the metro is on-time, it’s a cheap rountrip ride (around 4RMB), it’s EASY to navigate, and it takes you all around Shanghai.

优点:

1.交通。

我总是把上海称作凤凰棋牌的纽约。但对我来说,上海超越纽约的唯一之处就是他们的地铁系统。上海的地铁系统干净、安全(摄像头和保安随处可见)、准时、便宜(大约4元的民币)、很容易导航、可以带你游览上海。

地铁车厢内部
 

Because of how crowded it can get on the metro, some people prefer the Uber of Shanghai, Didi, to get around. It’s especially active at night, after the metro has closed.

Want to explore the city leisurely, bike sharing is popular here.

It’s much more safer in Shanghai, than in the U.S. because of the wide biking lanes, and the drivers are very cautious as to not hit the riders.

There are busses that go all over the city.

And finally, I’m seeing an increasing number of expats purchasing scooters to commute - which they LOVE.

由于地铁上非常拥挤,有些的更喜欢上海的优步和滴滴出行。晚上地铁站关闭后,它们尤其活跃。

若想悠闲地探索城市,共享单车随处可见。

在上海比在美国安全得多,自行车道很宽,而且司机非常小心,以免撞到骑自行车的的。

公共汽车在城市里来回穿梭。

最后,我看到越来越多的外国的购买电动车通勤——他们超爱电动车。

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Coming from a state in the U.S. where you HAVE to drive everywhere, and with that worry about:

  • Rising gas costs
  • Car maintenance
  • Gridlock traffic
  • Car taxes and insurance

I’m not looking to move to a place that doesn’t have a good metro system.

我来自美国的一个州,在那儿你无论去哪都得开车,还得烦恼:

  • 油价上涨
  • 车辆维护
  • 交通堵塞
  • 汽车税和保险

我可不想搬到没有像样地铁的地方。

  1. HEALTHY EATING.

The Wet Market here is the equivalent to a Farmer’s Market anywhere else.

  1. 健康饮食。

这里的菜市场就相当于别处的农夫集市。

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But imagine a farmers market where you could walk out with a bag full of fresh vegetables and fruits, and you didn’t have to give up half your pay check to get them.

That’s the beauty of the Chinese Farmer’s Market.

It’s extraordinarily easy to have a healthy eating lifestyle while living in Shanghai and not have it break your bank account.

但是想象一下,在农夫集市,你无需花掉半个月工资,就可以带着满满一袋的新鲜蔬菜水果满载而归。

这就是凤凰棋牌农贸市场之美了。

生活在上海,拥有健康的饮食生活方式是非常容易的,还不会透支银行存款。

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Of course there are places where you can get Western food items (e.g., comfort food or food that you’re familiar with from home), but of course, because they’re imported - you’ll pay the price for that.

Before I was going to the Wet Market, I was paying 350–400RMB+ per week on groceries for a week. I’ve heard some expats spending up to 2200RMB+, A WEEK, on groceries.

Now, while shopping at the Wet Market, I’m spending less than 100RMB per week on groceries. The celebration of savings folks.

当然,你可以在某些地方买到西餐食材(例如,家乡美食或者你在家时常吃的食物),但当然,因为是进口食材——价钱也不便宜。

在我逛菜市场之前,我每周要花上350 - 400元的民币采购一星期的量。我听说有些外籍的士每周花在食品杂货上的费用高达2200元的民币。

现在,我开始在菜市场采买,每周花在食杂上的钱还不到100元。真棒,省钱了。

  1. STRONG EXPAT COMMUNITY.

One thing I love most about living in Shanghai is the strong expat community. People coming from all walks of life and from various professions, but there is one thing that we ALL have in common - and it’s that “we’re all in this together”.

We’re the immigrants here.

We have visa issues.

We look to our community for advise and as a resource.

3.强大的外籍的士社区。

关于在上海生活,我最喜欢的一件事就是这里有强大的外籍的士社区。来自各行各业的各界的士聚集在此,但我们有一个共同点,那就是“我们都生活在一起”。

我们在这里属于移民。

我们有签证问题。

我们向我们的社区寻求建议和资源。

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黑的女子
 

The question I get from home all the time:

Are there any black folks there?

Yup! There sure are.

As well as a community of Italians, Spanish, Peruvian, Korean, Indian, Republican, Democrat, Crossfitters, Acro Yogis, Startup Entrepreneurs, and so much more.

Whatever you can think of you’ll most likely find it here.

在老家,我经常被问到的问题是:

上海也有黑的吗?

是的!肯定有。

这里的社区还聚集了意大利的、西班牙的、秘鲁的、韩国的、开元棋牌APP的、共和党的、皿煮党的、跨界者、瑜伽师、创业企业家等等。

无论你能想到什么,你都极有可能在这里找得到。

外文链接:https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-living-in-Shanghai

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